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The Debate on Furries

Post by Rip van Winkle on Tue May 27, 2008 1:31 am

The truth is, that after going to a furry convention, I am becoming convinced that they are not trying to cosplay, but I count them as cosplayers. I think that what they design as costumes are a true art form and also that their costuming skills seem to even cause some cosplayers to turn their heads. These people are not only the best at what they build, they are using their imagination to their utmost ability.

I know that some of you are using that whole CSI and ER thing as justification to make fun of them, but I suggest you really take a good look at some of the pictures are on facebook and even on photobucket. So before you pass a judgment on them, please just look at how incredible these costumes are!
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Post by Dodrio on Tue May 27, 2008 7:41 am

I've never understood why a lot of people dislike furries. I always thought that anyone who had the ability to create a costume like that is truly skilled. I checked out some of the pictures that were posted and the costumes looked really good.
On another note, I don't see why they can't be called cosplayers. Cosplaying is dressing up in costumes and acting as a specific character. Whether it be an original character or another public character. Either way, dressing in a furry costume is a form of cosplaying, as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by Rip van Winkle on Tue May 27, 2008 7:59 am

Well, this was what they told me, I don't think ones I talked to knew what cosplaying was. When I told them that anime fans do the exact same thing when it comes to anime characters.
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Re: The Debate on Furries

Post by Rabbit on Tue May 27, 2008 9:11 am

It's not their costumes that people tend to hate.
It's what they stand for.
People that either dress like that for sexual reasons, or wish they were an animal for sexual reasons. That's what a lot of people don't like. Most people think of Furries as people that...well...Yiff. If you don't know what "Yiff" means... google exists for a reason.
I am always amazed at some of the costumes, but I don't like what furries stand for. It's finding a middle ground, or finding people like the idea of animal people, just not sexually that are hard to find.

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Re: The Debate on Furries

Post by Rip van Winkle on Tue May 27, 2008 10:43 am

Rabbit wrote:It's not their costumes that people tend to hate.
It's what they stand for.
People that either dress like that for sexual reasons, or wish they were an animal for sexual reasons. That's what a lot of people don't like. Most people think of Furries as people that...well...Yiff. If you don't know what "Yiff" means... google exists for a reason.
I am always amazed at some of the costumes, but I don't like what furries stand for. It's finding a middle ground, or finding people like the idea of animal people, just not sexually that are hard to find.

Well, I am one of the furries that doesn't do that, the whole yiffing thing, I'm more for the fun of pretend. So when I dress up as a two tailed cat demon, its just for fun, nothing sexual attached, and nothing like that. I'm just into playing games and dressing up. Smile
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Post by Rabbit on Tue May 27, 2008 10:57 am

But you see what I'm talking about. Most people think "sex with animals" instead of a desire to become something else for a while. It only takes a few bad apples before the whole batch looks bad. Even if they aren't.

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Post by Rip van Winkle on Tue May 27, 2008 11:02 am

True, but still, I think that some of the furries I talked to were more interested in just playing. The whole problem stemmed from those stupid shows like CSI and ER, they appear to have caused a sterotyping problem that has come up.

I wonder what might happen if CSI or even SVU do an anime fan episode, do you think there might be the same kind of negativity that becomes attached to us?
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Post by Rabbit on Tue May 27, 2008 11:25 am

It's been done if I remember. Not much happened.
You can't blame those shows for it, though. Furry/yiffing crap stemmed from other things. There are some furries that are more vocal about what they do than others. And that's why there's so many problems. It's always the extremists that have a louder voice than those that are just dressing up. They're the ones that give furries a bad name.

I think I'm thinking about this too much. Time for bed.

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Re: The Debate on Furries

Post by Matareno on Tue May 27, 2008 12:35 pm

I feel that anyone who dresses as a furry, anime or Sci-fi is cosplaying. I count my first video game Halloween costume as cosplaying, it was Cid from FFVII. Many of my friends do video game cosplay and one particular only dose video game costumes. I did Van Pelt at this con, sorry their are no pics of me in the costume at Furry-Con
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Re: The Debate on Furries

Post by Rip van Winkle on Wed May 28, 2008 10:19 am

It was a cool costume, hehe, i should have gotten a good pic of it. I think I have you in one of my music videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Om_UcynV8&feature=user
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Re: The Debate on Furries

Post by Capt. Bob on Wed May 28, 2008 12:05 pm

To get a good look at how we "Mundanes" see Furry, here's a BBC documentary on the subject.

Part I: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htq3FwZ1mw8
Part II: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlNH5jOhWVE
Part III: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCzBUCrck14

Now while I personally find the sexual aspects of Furry fandom abhorant (though rare it may be), I do have to admit that they are skilled at costuming. I must also admit that saying that all furries like to yiff each other is much like saying all Anime fans like to touch little girls.

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Re: The Debate on Furries

Post by Rip van Winkle on Wed May 28, 2008 12:17 pm

Capt. Bob wrote:To get a good look at how we "Mundanes" see Furry, here's a BBC documentary on the subject.

Part I: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htq3FwZ1mw8
Part II: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlNH5jOhWVE
Part III: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCzBUCrck14

Now while I personally find the sexual aspects of Furry fandom abhorant (though rare it may be), I do have to admit that they are skilled at costuming. I must also admit that saying that all furries like to yiff each other is much like saying all Anime fans like to touch little girls.

Most of the furries I know are pretty much not at all like that, Gecko would be pretty upset with the sterotype, he's pretty much mild. Most of the Furries I talk about treat Yiffing as if it is just a huge joke and usually start a rather loud laugh about it. I saw a funny little apron that says, "Yiff the Cook" and it was supposed to be a joke.
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Re: The Debate on Furries

Post by Matareno on Wed May 28, 2008 1:39 pm

I don't really know what Yiffing is but I have a idea of to what it is.
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Re: The Debate on Furries

Post by Rip van Winkle on Wed May 28, 2008 1:41 pm

Believe me, it is just a big joke.
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